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GM终于被逮住了,我大笑三声哈哈哈

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发表于 2014-4-1 09:56:44 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
俄党俄军著名顺口溜湿银,陈大花帅,当年的名句扎说的?

不是不报,时侯不到。时侯一道,立马就报!

奥黑子啊奥黑子,俄叫你死整丰田!如此勤勉敬业的auto-maker的无心之失,被嫩抓住死整,以救助嫩的金主,头号垃圾制造商GM。拿着纳税人的钱,救助一个私营企业,头号垃圾制造商GM!

想不到天理昭昭吧,哈哈!

Sarah Trautwein, 19, lost control of her blue 2005 Chevrolet Cobalt on Interstate 95 near Charleston, S.C. as she headed home from visiting friends in June 2009. Her car began to run off the road, authorities said, causing her to overcorrect and hit a tree in the highway median. She died instantly.

Her family took small comfort in the idea that she had fallen asleep at the wheel. At least, they thought, she died in peace. So they were shaken in recent weeks when they learned about similar crashes tied to a faulty ignition switch that caused Cobalts and other small GM cars to switch off while in motion, stiffening their brakes and steering and disabling their air bags.

“This opens up a whole new thing. It is kind of crazy,” said Phil Trautwein, Sarah’s brother. Last week, the family learned after asking police that Sarah’s air bag had never deployed — as was the case for 13 people who died in accidents that GM has linked to the defect.

With Congress set to open hearings Tuesday into GM’s handling of the faulty ignition switches, Trautwein is among more than two dozen people who traveled to Washington in remembrance of relatives who died in GM cars. The family members met with GM’s chief executive, Mary T. Barra, at the automaker’s D.C. offices.

“There wasn’t a dry eye in the room,” said Bob Hilliard, a Corpus Christi, Tex., lawyer who sued GM on behalf of victims’ families.

First in the House and then in the Senate, lawmakers plan to grill Barra about why the defect went unaddressed despite a trail of red flags stretching back more than a decade. In written testimony submitted Monday to congressional investigators, Barra said she had the same question.

“I cannot tell you why it took years for a safety defect to be announced,” said Barra, who took over as GM’s CEO in mid-January. Apologizing again for GM’s actions, she added: “I can tell you that we will find out.”

Barra said she would use the results of an internal investigation being led by former federal prosecutor Anton Valukas to hold company executives accountable — and to “help assure that this does not happen again.”

Barra is expected to face tough questions from lawmakers alarmed that the company installed the ignition switches manufactured by a supplier, Delphi, even though they did not meet all of the automaker’s technical specifications.

“This information raises important new questions about what GM knew, when GM knew about the risks from this faulty ignition switch, and how the company has handled the recalls of affected vehicles,” wrote Democratic Reps. Henry A. Waxman (Calif.), Diana DeGette (Colo.) and Jan Schakowsky (Ill.), in a letter to Barra on Monday.


David Friedman, acting head of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, has also been summoned to testify. ­NHTSA is under fire for not doing more to recognize the defect and requiring GM to fix it, despite mounting accident reports, consumer complaints and a 2007 recommendation by a top staffer for a full-scale investigation. That recommendation was rejected after a review by a panel of NHTSA officials.

“This was a difficult case pursued by experts in the field of screening, investigations and technology involving air bags that are designed to deploy in some cases, but not in cases where they are not needed or would do more harm than good,” Friedman said in his prepared testimony. He added: “Advanced air bags are not intended to deploy in all crashes, even frontal crashes.”

Friedman said NHTSA suspects that GM did not provide regulators with timely information about the faulty ignition switch — a violation of federal law — complicating the agency’s handling of the problem.

As inquiries by GM engineers and NHTSA employees led nowhere, evidence of the defect mounted in private lawsuits. That prompted GM to assemble a team of engineers to review the problem, resulting in the first of several ignition-switch recalls in February. The recalled vehicles include 2.6 million Chevrolet Cobalts and five other small models.

Last month, Barra appointed a new vice president to oversee safety issues at the giant automaker; the company has since issued an unusual number of recall notices.

On Monday, GM released another one: The company said it will recall more than 1.3 million U.S. vehicles at risk of unexpectedly losing power steering. The latest announcement brings the total number of vehicles recalled this year by the automaker to more than 6 million.

For the survivors of accidents involving the faulty ignition switches, the recalls have come far too late.

Amber Marie Rose, 16, died in the predawn hours of July 29, 2005, when her new Cobalt crashed at the end of a cul-de-sac in Charles County, Md.

Rose had been drinking, and she was not wearing a seat belt. But a police officer noted that her air bag — which could have saved her life — had not deployed.

“He said it had to be an issue with the car,” said Rose’s mother, Terry DiBattista.

The family hired an investigator, who turned his findings over to GM. Within weeks, the automaker offered the family a financial settlement. But it was not until a few weeks ago that they learned that the air bags did not deploy because the car’s ignition switch had shifted into the accessory position.

“It is horrible that GM knew all of this and they allowed it to happen and all these people died because of this,” DiBattista said.

Susan Hayes, 49, of Ticonderoga, N.Y., said she received a recall notice in February for her son’s silver Chevrolet Cobalt. By then, her son, Ryan Quigley, 23, had been dead for more than two years. He and a friend were killed when Quigley’s Cobalt, purchased just four months earlier, veered off the road and plunged over an embankment, landing upside-down in a small stream not far from the family’s home. The force of the crash was so violent that it broke her son’s sternum.


After the accident, Hayes learned that her son had been drinking and that he was not wearing a seat belt. His 19-year-old passenger had fastened his belt but died anyway.

“My son was a very good human being who made a poor choice,” she said.

Hayes settled on that as an explanation for his death, until she learned about the ignition-switch problems. That prompted her to meet with the police officer who investigated her son’s accident. A little over a month ago, she learned that the air bags in the car had never deployed.

“I’ve read an awful lot recently about the knowledge that GM had about this problem, and how it was buried,” Hayes said, before reading words from a GM document that she had written down on a small pad. It said that GM had rejected an ignition-switch fix in 2005 because “none of the solutions represents an acceptable business case.”

“My son wasn’t a business case. He was a human being,” she said. “As were the other people who died because of this problem.”
沙发
发表于 2014-4-1 13:24:01 | 只看该作者
我坐这沙发赚工分。这是人命关天的事。

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老大威武  发表于 2014-4-1 16:32
板凳
 楼主| 发表于 2014-4-1 14:15:58 | 只看该作者
GM的ceo正在美国国会出席听证。

没兴趣看或这部分词汇库不好的,由俄简单解释一下。事件的基本内容是说通用出产的cobalt和其他几款小车,点火钥匙会自动跳回accessary位置,导致汽车运行时忽然死火,那么由引擎运转提供动力的另外两个核心功能,刹车和动力转向,也会同时失灵,导致撞车。

而因点火钥匙跳回accessary位置,撞车时,安全气囊是不会打开的。
地板
发表于 2014-4-1 15:17:17 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 IntoTheWind 于 2014-4-1 15:18 编辑
checkmoteur 发表于 2014-4-1 14:15
GM的ceo正在美国国会出席听证。

没兴趣看或这部分词汇库不好的,由俄简单解释一下。事件的基本内容是说通 ...


我以前开Pontiac G5, 高速上突然跳到了空档, 有可能是右手无意识的碰到了档杆.
突然失速, 差点吓死. 还好及时发现了.

看了这个觉得真是幸运.

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问题是档位不应该这么容易被误操作. 比如Vibe的档位就不允许这种误操作. 钥匙熄火也是外力造成的.  发表于 2014-4-2 13:39
那只是操作失误,不能算故障吧  发表于 2014-4-2 13:21
自动档  发表于 2014-4-1 21:54
手动档?  发表于 2014-4-1 16:33
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 楼主| 发表于 2014-4-1 16:05:09 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 checkmoteur 于 2014-4-1 16:06 编辑

gm的ceo正在被媒体围攻。看上去应对得体。相比之下当年的丰田可谓举止失措。

个人没碰到过gm的类似问题,不管开车还是捣鼓车。8过gm的点火钥匙,技术一点说所谓key cylinder,是怎么个一坨piece of beep,还是有概念的,比如稍有磨损,要从锁止位置扭出来,就比登天都难。

owner们开习惯了,自然晓得用多大劲,钥匙插到多深多浅,扭到多大角度。你一个干活的,头上压着标准工时,真能给卡住。从前呆过的一个garage有个标准说法,摆这个叫做gm touch,某位老兄公认是最佳。只要有gm的车进来,三不五的总会有人大喊,谁谁谁过来一下好么,I need your gm touch。
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发表于 2014-4-1 16:13:53 | 只看该作者
checkmoteur 发表于 2014-4-1 17:05
gm的ceo正在被媒体围攻。看上去应对得体。相比之下当年的丰田可谓举止失措。

个人没碰到过gm的类似问题, ...

GM股票会跌不?

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回美版老大, 瞎炒炒。  发表于 2014-4-2 12:45
luvski 炒股?  发表于 2014-4-2 12:36
beat me。。。  发表于 2014-4-1 16:27
7#
发表于 2014-4-1 18:04:16 | 只看该作者
我以前的丰田Camry,重踩油门车缓慢加速,轻踫油门车往前跳。我一直无法掌握这种丰田touch。后来重新安装全车软件,问题才解决。

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camry是有很多问题,越新越如此。个人印象,丰田最牛的还是yaris往下这些小车,简陋但极度可靠耐用  发表于 2014-4-2 11:43
不是个案,后来我在网上看到很多类似complain。很多人为次卖了Camry买Ford Fusion。当然重装软件后问题解决。  发表于 2014-4-1 18:46
只是个案的话,恐不能称为toyota touch  发表于 2014-4-1 18:30
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发表于 2014-4-1 20:29:40 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 sonicwithtails 于 2014-4-1 21:34 编辑
checkmoteur 发表于 2014-4-1 15:15
GM的ceo正在美国国会出席听证。

没兴趣看或这部分词汇库不好的,由俄简单解释一下。事件的基本内容是说通 ...


一个最关键的细节是:gm明明知道有这个问题但直到最近才recall。
这个问题早在2001年gm内部就知道了。

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嗯,有个内部的document  发表于 2014-4-2 07:27
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 楼主| 发表于 2014-4-2 11:15:41 | 只看该作者
一说到这些事总少不了众所周知的那些口水。申明一下个人态度,基于众所周知的原因俄当然不是美车特别通用与克莱斯勒的粉丝,却也同时并非toyota的热衷者。

俄自己在国内的车都是大众,过来后的车则主要是尼桑马自达这些二线日车。

国内买大众也并非迷信german engineering之类的俗讲,讲的再神也挡不住小毛病多这个事实。而且至少到俄出来那时候,大众在国内普遍推行的还都是落后5到10年甚至15年的engineering,不厚道的可以。那么俄买大众主要还因为其在国内的产地,长春和上海,都是正经老厂,有底蕴,活儿比那些新厂靠谱,而已。

出来买二线日车首先当然因为便宜,比两个田花的少,或相同的钱买到的技术含量高。其次则相比两个田,尼桑马自达在故障率可靠性上比不了,驾乘乐趣则好的多。相同级别的车,尼桑的马力总是最大的。马自达的handling,特别手动档,也非两个田可比。等等等等吧。

具体到丰田,设计理念保守,性能平庸,就俄对车的品味来说,又恰恰时最不能接受的两点。那么俄对丰田的敬意,完全是干活时经意不经意间所获得的印象,堆积出来的。

举个例说,车进来嘛都不干,就是换油,附带简单的check-up,先喵一眼历程表,比如七万公里,美车,二线日车,你闭上眼睛,也能找出一堆问题来。toyota呢,多数情况下,你闭上眼睛换油就完了。

类似的经历,一次两次三次十次百次无数次,永远这样重复下去之后,你仍可以不鄙视美车特别gm和chrysler,不敬重toyota,只能说明你是一位铁杆的racist。

当然toyota也不是十年前了。做了老大之后,精气神似有下降,产品问题增多,都是可以理解的自然的趋势。比起gm来,仍然好上太多吧。

类似丰田踏板门或gm点火钥匙门这种滥事儿,对汽车制造业草菅人命的罪恶史稍有概念者都清楚,是哪个厂商的屁股也不干净,谁也没资格说谁的。从这些引申出去搞事儿,不是无知,就是别有用心。

funny thing is,就美国三大而言,历史的看,最草菅人命的,恰恰是当前表现最好,口碑最佳的ford。

丰田踏板门,obviously,是政府在后推波助澜,寻衅打击日车老大,挽救美车颓势。这是不公平的。对厂商如此,对消费者同样如此。抹黑好产品,误导消费者买些垃圾回家,冒更多的金钱乃至生命损失的危险,去成就政客们的水下交易,和青史美名(振兴民族工业,my ass),是一件卑鄙的事。
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发表于 2014-4-2 11:23:36 | 只看该作者
checkmoteur 发表于 2014-4-2 11:15
一说到这些事总少不了众所周知的那些口水。申明一下个人态度,基于众所周知的原因俄当然不是美车特别通用与 ...

大师, 我听说出问题的丰田都是米国人组装的, 完全日本生产的没有此类问题, 可是真的?

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教主,这种事小的也不晓得啊  发表于 2014-4-2 11:24
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