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一个很好的讨论carving和pivoting的帖子

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发表于 2012-8-22 10:05:53 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |正序浏览 |阅读模式
一个我认为很好的讨论carving和pivoting的帖子。他们用的是那个晚上滑雪的韩国人的录像。基本上2方再讨论这个韩国人的滑法。当然了,讨论没有结论,相信每个人也会有自己的看法。有人贴过没?

去这个链接,可以去full version看到录像。
http://www.skiervillage.com/arch ... 6d86fe8a09ad7b22ed5

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Carving
When he is carving he is riding the sidecut of the ski. So his only movement to turn is to tip his skis on edge and move over his skis with his body to stay dynamically balanced. And his only movement at transition is to see that his upper body transits from one side to the other in a balanced state of being. The turns are therefore longer and his upper body movements more lateral. He is laying down some good angles. He is going very fast. No braking. Controlling his speed by pointing his skis out of the fall line. The tighter he manages to carve his turns the less he will be accellerating down the fall line and the more controll he has of his speed. Only works to a sertain limit and takes a lot of muscle effort to do for a longer period of time if the slope is steep.

Pivotted
When he is pivotting he is over-riding the skis natural turn radius. Linking very short turns closer to the fall line with a pivotted turn entry and a hard edge set in the belly of the turn. He stays more upright with lower edged angles. This kind of turning is only possible if you get the kind of rebound he is getting at the end of the turn. His turns are in other words feeding on rebound and making use of up-unweighting. Some would call it down-unweighting but that is only a matter of how you look at it. Main thing is that his mass is being pushed up so that he can retract his skis and float through the transition. By tightening his turn radius and ramping up his rhythm he can gain more controll over his speed. This kind of turn is often refered to as a SL turn but in ski racing there is no difference between SL and GS. Both diciplines foundation block is carving.

Pivot = turn your skis. Carving = let the skis turn you.

A pivot is usually caused by femure rotation while a carved turn is produced by tipping the ski on its edge

还有很多不太懂的, anyway,值得一看的帖子。

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发表于 2012-8-30 20:17:12 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 StormRider 于 2012-8-30 20:19 编辑

瓜瓜的Comments 从来就是3级以上,为此我还专门在大白拍摄了一段准备回来后再整理放给瓜瓜看我们是多么的想瓜瓜,结果麦克不争气,把毛片丢了。 当时的女主播是Echo, 男主播是猫狗帮大将丹尼斯

我觉得可以请Echo 和丹尼斯把当时的台词再背一遍
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发表于 2012-8-30 17:44:19 | 只看该作者
Good video, good techniques , good snow,  good comments .   Good Guagua !

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Thanks  发表于 2012-8-30 17:46
16#
发表于 2012-8-24 22:47:02 | 只看该作者
轻微的A
15#
发表于 2012-8-24 18:39:32 | 只看该作者
.......大夏天怪热怪热的  喝个冰啤酒吃个羊肉串多好  干嘛思考这么伤脑细胞的问题
等10月份再开始研究也不晚....

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娃哈哈哈,我们开始穿秋裤啦  发表于 2012-8-24 21:53
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发表于 2012-8-24 15:12:21 | 只看该作者
okay, could you 找一找 then bring it to soccer?
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发表于 2012-8-24 14:46:31 | 只看该作者
jluo 发表于 2012-8-24 14:10
quoi, you still have the video at Blanc last year? I can come to pick it up tonight. or tomorrow. Do ...

1, 需要找一找,
2, 去
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发表于 2012-8-24 14:10:06 | 只看该作者
quoi, you still have the video at Blanc last year? I can come to pick it up tonight. or tomorrow. Do are you going to soccer tonight?
11#
发表于 2012-8-24 08:49:34 | 只看该作者
BP已经能刻DVD了吗?
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发表于 2012-8-23 20:45:07 | 只看该作者
quoiguaski 发表于 2012-8-23 15:59
卡冰需要压弯雪板, 不然那个叫railway turn. 柔和稳定的压住雪板, 会在地上留下一条细线. 压的过程中板子的 ...

多种滑法的大杂绘,这个雪季你上个视频给我们演示一下?
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