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21#
发表于 2015-3-31 22:13:00 | 只看该作者
常hold的住 发表于 2015-3-31 22:03
要说稳还是红派最稳, 君不见又陡又不平的的猫狗被加国拿了许多冠军。
可是真正竞速灵活的slalom,还是欧洲 ...

李大师您的意思是说,猫狗需要稳,slalom得灵活不需要稳?也是醉了
22#
发表于 2015-3-31 22:18:38 | 只看该作者
好吧,为男女平等,在发个女性FIS slalom 积分排名

Rank        Athlete        Country        Points
1  SHIFFRIN  Mikaela USA   679
2 HANSDOTTER  Frida SWE 569
3 MAZE  Tina SLO 439
4 STRACHOVA  Sarka CZE 376
5  ZETTEL  Kathrin AUT 356
6 VELEZ ZUZULOVA  Veronika SVK 303
7 PIETILAE-HOLMNER  Maria SWE 303
8 HOLDENER  Wendy SUI 266
9 HOSP  Nicole AUT 249
10 LOESETH  Nina NOR 225
11 GAGNON  Marie-Michele CAN 186

前十中施神是北美的一支独秀。
GAGNON  Marie-Michele 排11给加国撑门面了。

23#
发表于 2015-3-31 22:22:33 | 只看该作者
cat 发表于 2015-3-31 22:13
李大师您的意思是说,猫狗需要稳,slalom得灵活不需要稳?也是醉了

内,大师,你说为啥加国在slalom和猫狗上区别内么大呢?

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cat
扯远了,说的是稳  发表于 2015-3-31 22:25
24#
发表于 2015-3-31 22:34:15 | 只看该作者
玛雅, 你竟然还另开一贴专门讨论。
其实没那么复杂吧, 我想说的其实很简单, 在兵兵那个帖子里也说了。 学习滑雪是一个循序渐进的过程, 有人开始早, 天分好, 厕所上得勤, 进步就快, 有人, 比如你我, 天分差,进步慢,  又爱拍片瞎得瑟露怯。 但是我们绝对不能自立门派, 我们还是要朝着红牛们指引的道路前进。

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我不是红卫兵, 我是少先队员!  发表于 2015-3-31 22:45
您听着也像红卫兵。。。。唉。。。。  发表于 2015-3-31 22:41
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-3-31 22:50:15 | 只看该作者
常hold的住 发表于 2015-3-31 22:03
要说稳还是红派最稳, 君不见又陡又不平的的猫狗被加国拿了许多冠军。
可是真正竞速灵活的slalom,还是欧洲 ...

HOLDER爷, 这玩意儿有关系吗?
CSIA的目的不是培养奥运冠军或排名前几。
至于如何培养奥运冠军, 俺不知道, holder 爷知道?

http://www.snowpro.com/index.php/en/about-us/about-csia

Who is the CSIA?
Founded in 1938 and incorporated in 1949 as a not-for-profit organization, the CSIA is the professional ski teaching body in Canada. It is a federally recognized teaching institution and it trains and certifies ski instructors to best serve its partners such as ski schools and the Canadian skiing public.

Canada has six CSIA regions: British Columbia, Alberta, Central, Ontario, Quebec, and Atlantic — each represented on the Board of Directors. The six members of the National Board of Directors conduct the affairs and business of the CSIA. Regional affairs and member services are addressed through Regional Committees, who are serving regional needs through member newsletters, regional events and Level 1 Courses.

What do we offer?
The CSIA offers four certification levels, in addition to prep training courses and professional development sessions along with hosting of on-snow regional events during each season. These levels represent a progression of skills and knowledge. Level 1 courses are administered by the Regional Committees under the technical guidelines established by the Education Committee. All other levels are administered by the National Office, based out of Montreal, Quebec.

Anyone who wishes to become a regular member of the CSIA must attend and pass a certification course. Each member has access to extended training and education and receives newsletters and material provided by the CSIA.

What is our mission statement?
The Canadian Ski Instructors’ Alliance provides excellence in education for the profession of ski teaching, contributing to the growth and enjoyment of skiing.

At the Canadian Ski Instructors' Alliance (CSIA), we value our sport and its environment, our members, our partners and the skiing public. As the leader in the profession of ski instruction and a most valued and respected contributor to the sport of skiing, we develop a safe and positive guest experience, a progressive approach and set national standards in ski teaching.

International Affiliations
The CSIA is a member of the International Ski Instructors' Association (ISIA), the body encompassing the national ski teaching associations of some 38 alpine nations. The purpose of the ISIA is to provide a forum for the exchange of ideas among countries and to harmonize certification equivalencies with regard to international standards. The member nations meet annually, and every four years at a larger meeting, called Interski Congress, which is held on snow.
26#
发表于 2015-3-31 22:53:25 | 只看该作者
cat 发表于 2015-3-31 21:05
谁说僵,你找谁去,鸡同鸭讲,关猫牛事?掐了半天,连跟谁掐都没整清楚,说了半天,连最基本的参照系都没搞 ...

猫弟, 我觉得可以用生涩来替代僵硬你看如何?

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cat
熊姐高见  发表于 2015-4-1 22:44
27#
发表于 2015-3-31 23:53:54 | 只看该作者
僵就是僵,稳就是稳,这都是个体现象。缆车上望去,谁僵谁稳,谁紧谁松,谁应酬谁洒脱,皆一目了然。关乎门派何事?

我是C派的。我不要做一个僵c,我要做一个稳c
28#
发表于 2015-4-1 07:43:11 | 只看该作者
既然谈到施大美女,俄又兴奋了,哈哈。

slalom这张图想必不少人看过:



各位可以看出,这与c的要求有什么不同吗。

同样是施大小姐,gs的,自由滑:



观感?好僵硬的上身,是不是。。。

滑雪滑雪,其实该叫划雪,乃至刮雪。一个弯下来,真出力在划或者刮的,其实就是fall line前面一点到后面一点,的那一小段。c管这一段叫p3,管这个作用过程叫load。其余部分,你是在出溜,倒真是滑。

那么这个刮或者划的阶段,要求,某种意义下说,反而是越僵就越好。前提当然是建立正确的body alignment,然后你就需要僵住这个posture,hold住你的fart,以最合理最强壮的姿态来对抗各种作用力,直到p3结束才松开。

P是个myth。你看interski上的demo,真如猫大所说,颇有一点上窜下跳,左摆右晃的嫌疑,上身不是那么的stable。但你看那些偶像比如bb的视频,和言论,你会发现这些地方,与C并无多少区别来着。

PMTS还不一样么,拿老怪的视频来,就看p3,有啥不同:



木有。

分歧无非在p2,你怎么实现这样的body alignment这个问题上。c和p要你转外边大腿,达到转板子的目的,进而要求两腿一起转。老怪反对,主张转内腿贴外腿,结果还是摆板子转过来。而已。

总之,好的skiing都是一样的,不好的倒是有各种的不同。
29#
发表于 2015-4-1 07:44:43 | 只看该作者
luvski 发表于 2015-3-31 22:34
玛雅, 你竟然还另开一贴专门讨论。
其实没那么复杂吧, 我想说的其实很简单, 在兵兵那个帖子里也说了。  ...

说得太对了。

啥时候上视频看花衣服啊,不看技术,不然就没花头了 :)
30#
发表于 2015-4-1 12:45:24 | 只看该作者
SnowSailor 发表于 2015-4-1 08:44
说得太对了。

啥时候上视频看花衣服啊,不看技术,不然就没花头了 :)

等着阿牛来帮我拍呢!
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