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发表于 2013-1-22 10:23:21 | 只看该作者
c_sea 发表于 2013-1-22 09:55
bullpower  http://www.skichinese.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=6380&pid=92940

大侠俺来说说俺的想法, 您给评判一下:

这人吧都有一种原始冲动, 不足百天的幼儿尚且知道跟着音乐起舞, 化缘乃是与这种骚动一种锲和, 一旦划上瘾,那种挥之不去, 招之即来快感是没有东西可以替代的。

说完了
42#
发表于 2013-1-22 10:40:26 | 只看该作者
我也说说我的感悟,以前听内特大侠上课强调smooth, 好像没有比圆形状更smooth的东西了。可是还看到有人使劲把圆往扁里滑,那个费劲,使了半天力气,往山下也走不了多远,这也是为了省缆车钱?

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桑尼是个坏人  发表于 2013-1-22 23:13
姑娘,你这是幽默,不叫感悟  发表于 2013-1-22 11:35
43#
 楼主| 发表于 2013-1-22 11:21:52 来自手机 | 只看该作者
chalpha 发表于 2013-1-22 09:55:59

前面你滑的好,我估计你之所以觉得有斜滑降的错觉,是你因为你走在刃上了,实际情况是你同时也在给刃压力,所以滑的很圆。
这段季中的视频,你想滑的密一点,确实弯是多了,但这种密是靠很多成分的横滑降实现的

之前的视频确实是注意出弯加大立刃了,这次一直是在刷雪,基本都是拧转,没怎么立刃。像第一个视频第二段想朝着拍摄者画圆,板子都是刷过去的。来自: Android客户端

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我觉得第一个视频第二段还可以啊  发表于 2013-1-22 12:06
44#
发表于 2013-1-22 11:28:43 | 只看该作者
firehwak2018 发表于 2013-1-22 11:21
之前的视频确实是注意出弯加大立刃了,这次一直是在刷雪,基本都是拧转,没怎么立刃。像第一个视频第二段 ...

什么时候搞个牌牌?

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有机会就去考  发表于 2013-1-22 12:06
45#
发表于 2013-1-22 12:02:21 | 只看该作者
c_sea 发表于 2013-1-22 09:25
我在167学校和在蓝山的缆车上跟几位同雪都讲过这个问题。 楼上几位也都在说园, 我想请问一个问题, 为什么 ...

大侠就是大侠,这问题可谓醍醐灌顶,当头棒喝,一下就把楼上同雪们的思考提升到审美学,运动生理学甚至哲学的高度了

其实板刃就是圆的嘛。板刃就像LD,她要画圆,你就别拧着来非要走方。当然也不能全顺着来,不然她越走越快,早晚把你甩了。在顺着的基础上,暗地里搞搞小动作就行了。或是往高里捧捧,再侧面施点压,她就飘飘然转得快一点。或是反之给她放松放松,减轻压力,她一hold不住就顺着你刷~卡~了。重点是,你一定得抢占先机,先她一步占据圆心,这样才能做到使最少的劲,取得最佳的控制效果,让她整天围着你转,还美滋滋地以为她在领导你。所谓家和万事兴,你也舒心她也高兴,别人看着能不羡慕么?

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雄猫V5  发表于 2013-1-22 23:15
老猫, 大侠也! 滔滔江水!!!  发表于 2013-1-22 16:47
老猫骗她够圆滑的。  发表于 2013-1-22 13:56
****  发表于 2013-1-22 13:07
膜拜大侠  发表于 2013-1-22 12:11
46#
发表于 2013-1-22 12:09:10 | 只看该作者
cat 发表于 2013-1-22 12:02
大侠就是大侠,这问题可谓醍醐灌顶,当头棒喝,一下就把楼上同雪们的思考提升到审美学,运动生理学甚至哲 ...

高,实在是高!超五级
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 楼主| 发表于 2013-1-22 12:15:18 | 只看该作者
bullpower 发表于 2013-1-22 00:53
为啥我觉得你没第一次帖出来的录像滑的好了呢?

这个很奇怪。。我自己感觉动作是精细了,重心总的来讲不那么靠后了。

黑道上的那小段确实表现不佳,滑的时候也有感觉。 蓝道上的圈我搞明白怎么回事了,我是朝着拍摄者的方向滑的圈,不是朝着坡底,所以弯的形状有点怪,从滚落线看像方形圈。 另外这次真的是没注意脚下立刃。

剪刀腿不知道是怎么出来的。只是这次试着把站姿放宽了一些,然后多去找了找站在外板上的感觉,下次得再拍视频留意一下。
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 楼主| 发表于 2013-1-22 12:16:05 | 只看该作者
问个装备问题: 如果我一只鞋的顶扣是歪的(不和中线垂直了)会有什么影响么?
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发表于 2013-1-22 12:21:51 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 vicboy™ 于 2013-1-22 13:55 编辑
c_sea 发表于 2013-1-22 09:25
我在167学校和在蓝山的缆车上跟几位同雪都讲过这个问题。 楼上几位也都在说园, 我想请问一个问题, 为什么 ...


My speech of the year [correct me if I am wrong]

Round turn is to controlling speed and to maintaining momentum energy. The ability to make round turn shows the skill of the skier, and the ability to make a turn.

Most average skiers do not know how to turn, or make a good "turn", even though most think they know how to turn. To measure that, take an average skier to GS race course, you will find the average skier skids, breaks, or misses the "turn" (the gate). In simple word, they cannot turn, or don't know how to turn.

In free skiing, a skier does not need to make round turn all the time. The difference between an average skier and an expert skier is the average skier doesn't know how to make a round turn, and the expert skier knows how but doesn't make a round turn all the time.

Average skiers and expert skiers all are able to ski at green run because it does not require high level of "turn" skill. A skier progresses from green run, to blue, to black runs, is not how brave they became (maybe some do), but with improved turning skill. In a GS race course, an expert skier will win because he/she "turns" better. In steep double black runs, an average skier's legs are frozen and scared to go down. Why, because he/she is unable to turn and therefore scared of going straight.

In free skiing, there is less measurement of skill required as compared to racing where time is measured which is determined by skill. If you feel you are "good" now and want to improve, take yourself to a steeper slope. If you cannot make a round turn coming down, it will show your problem in skill.

In another simple word, practice round turn is to exercise your turning skill.

In my church, my bible says there are two skills only in skiing. One is going straight, and the another is turning. Everyone knows going straight, but very few people can turn. If you think you know how to turn, show yourself in race course, in steep, in mogul, in powder, and in tree. Then you are GOD in my church. Aleluya.

Have a great and wonderful turn. Amen.

点评

请继续指点~  发表于 2013-1-27 22:40
今天才看到,受教!  发表于 2013-1-23 23:26
b-p
灯塔级讲话,受教!  发表于 2013-1-22 22:29
鼓掌!  发表于 2013-1-22 18:17
V大, 老大也! 滔滔江水!!!  发表于 2013-1-22 16:47
开个ONLIN SKI 弥撒吧,我会常来听的,方便我们外地人  发表于 2013-1-22 15:29
老大之蛇年寄语,俺要背下来,忽悠别人去  发表于 2013-1-22 14:11
画圆大道永无止境, 真好 :-)  发表于 2013-1-22 13:25
cat
老大's speech of the year, #1 (out of n)  发表于 2013-1-22 13:03
这里是回应西海大侠的论题。“you“不是指西海大侠,只是一个统称。  发表于 2013-1-22 12:41
50#
发表于 2013-1-22 12:38:54 | 只看该作者
vicboy™ 发表于 2013-1-22 12:21
My speech of the year [correct me if I am wrong]

Round turn is to controlling speed and to mainta ...

追寻自由的turn...学习ing...太经典了,我不是托儿
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