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作者: 常hold的住 时间: 2015-12-20 10:03
标题: 双雄会
[youtube]watch?v=CKPVkmzsw04[/youtube]

太精彩了，H.KRISTOFFERSEN VS M.HIRSCHER。这个赛季的GS&SL 都会很激烈。

作者: IntoTheWind 时间: 2015-12-21 19:40
Ted老了, 不复当年勇.

作者: KuoiGuaBoarder 时间: 2015-12-21 22:20
不是铅球滑法领先一代吗

作者: 常hold的住 时间: 2015-12-21 23:47
Ted LIGETY 31 AUG 1984
Marcel HIRSCHER 02 MAR 1989
Henrik KRISTOFFERSEN 02 JUL 1994

5年出一天才的节奏。

作者: IntoTheWind 时间: 2015-12-22 08:46

KuoiGuaBoarder 发表于 2015-12-21 22:20
不是铅球滑法领先一代吗

教授给讲讲吧, 为啥Ted不坚持铅球滑了? 难道是体力下降, 支撑不了铅球滑? 就是说铅球滑需要很强的支撑力?

作者: flake 时间: 2015-12-22 08:56
Overall title 是零的Ted 也叫天才。。。

作者: 常hold的住 时间: 2015-12-22 16:38
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KRISTOFFERSEN Henrik 在SL上赢回一城，HIRSCHER Marcel落后1.25s

作者: 常hold的住 时间: 2015-12-22 18:17
本帖最后由常hold的住于 2015-12-22 22:31 编辑

这个版本清晰直接
[youtube]watch?v=_OvXo2ygsMc[/youtube]

作者: 常hold的住 时间: 2015-12-22 19:41
目前总积分榜上，三个挪威人围堵一个奥地利人HIRSCHER Marcel
HIRSCHER Marcel 在 GS上优势明显，已经比完的4站
GS, HIRSCHER Marcel 获得3个第一，1个第3，在原Ted Ligety的优势项目上完全压倒一切对手。
Henrik KRISTOFFERSEN在原 HIRSCHER Marcel的优势项目 SL上，连续头2站战胜后者； SG继续有所提升，获得1个第2，1个第3，一个第6. SL 第一，GS第四

作者: cat 时间: 2015-12-24 16:21
你们滑再快，也是抄袭我大米国Mr GS Ted的独创滑法，嘁

作者: 常hold的住 时间: 2016-1-5 16:03
Marcel's words right after they stepped off the podium in Madonna : '' Yes, I'm impressed with Kristoffersen's skiing, but I'm not surprised that he is dominating at the moment in slalom, we have seen that already in Val d'Isere. There is no way at the moment if he is making no mistakes to beat him. He is the man to beat at the moment, definitely in slalom, and maybe in two months as well in GS."

作者: 常hold的住 时间: 2016-1-5 16:12
老怪偏向自己奥地利人的解释
Marcel is struggling with his set up again like Shiffrin was, with Atomic product. He's playing with it run to run, and it's just not right. Atomic skis are harsh and they hold too much and are to stiff on grippy snow. It doesn't help that his boots are also over canted with the cuffs. You can see it in Marcel's skiing and he knows it. He's hard and late on his skis, his stance is too wide; wider than I have ever seen it. That is a true indicator that the is forcing his skis to get over to angles. If you watch Chritofferson his set up is mellow in comparison. When the snow is injected, frozen and really hard, Marcel can win with this set up, but on the softer surface, too much hold and grab.

作者: KuoiGuaBoarder 时间: 2016-1-5 16:55
厉害咱肉眼凡胎，看不到这个层面

作者: KuoiGuaBoarder 时间: 2016-1-5 18:25
[youtube]zid_Srok7yA[/youtube]

作者: KuoiGuaBoarder 时间: 2016-1-5 18:26
[youtube]3Q9ox79nRSQ[/youtube]

作者: KuoiGuaBoarder 时间: 2016-1-5 18:33
[youtube]7g2s56_LEKo[/youtube]

作者: 常hold的住 时间: 2016-1-7 03:46
如老怪所言，Marcel Hirscher在Slalom Men第三站 Santa Caterina 小赢Henrik Kristoffersen 0.21秒
周末移师Adelboden 再战 GS/SL

[youtube]watch?v=pqKZeF-Dlwc[/youtube]

作者: 常hold的住 时间: 2016-1-10 09:05
瑞士Adelboden的GS因故昨天取消

在刚刚结束瑞士Adelboden SL,  KRISTOFFERSEN Henrik 以0.06秒的优势险胜HIRSCHER Marcel.前4站KRISTOFFERSEN Henrik 以3:1继续领先

1 6 KRISTOFFERSEN Henrik 55.53 55.81 1:51.34
2 3 HIRSCHER Marcel       55.45          55.95 1:51.40 +0.06

作者: 常hold的住 时间: 2016-1-10 17:44
视频出来了。原来是因为有雾，GS不得不取消

[youtube]watch?v=Wv_myC3beB0[/youtube]

作者: 常hold的住 时间: 2016-1-10 17:49
挪威前世界冠军/奥运金牌得主Kjetil André Aamodt actually commented on that during the Norwegian broadcast -- i.e. on how HK seemingly managed to "float" on the snow even on such a "collapsing"* snow condition. I don't know the terminology* in English, but he basically said that no one else in the race managed to transfer balance from outside and inside leg like HK depending on whether the snow held or gave in, that was why he was able to put in such a monster second run despite the conditions -- tactically and technically, he had superior release-, balance transfer and edge engagement control.

作者: cat 时间: 2016-1-11 21:30
啥时候比GS啊，我好想看Mr. GS Ted 嘢

作者: 常hold的住 时间: 2016-1-17 08:39

cat 发表于 2016-1-11 21:30
啥时候比GS啊，我好想看Mr. GS Ted 嘢

回猫大，
GS要等到 1月31日的德国 Garmisch Partenkirchen 站

作者: 常hold的住 时间: 2016-1-17 08:41
上周 Kristoffersen vs Hirscher Slalom (Adelboden) 视频

[youtube]watch?v=kusiv-XjOes[/youtube]

作者: 常hold的住 时间: 2016-1-17 08:50
Henrik Kristoffersen 在刚刚结束的 SL 瑞士Wengen站再下一城。前5站4个第一，1个第2. SL上绝对优势
Marcel Hirscher 鸭梨下DNF。上届SL大满贯被小辈无情碾压。

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[youtube]/watch?v=Zr_h0jyQABg[/youtube]

作者: 常hold的住 时间: 2016-1-17 09:04
Marcel Hirscher 2012雪季 SL 积分第3，2013雪季才开始接管 SL，此后始终总积分第一。 2013雪季末，Marcel Hirscher 刚满24岁。
Henrik Kristoffersen 今年 22岁。目前 SL 总积分第1， GS 总积分第4。
Marcel Hirscher 22岁，2011雪季，SL 总积分第5， GS 总积分第10
如下慢动作视频可以对比2人特点
[youtube]watch?v=zrl61qDMtiw[/youtube]
[youtube]watch?v=LXmZIcXa1jY[/youtube]

作者: westvest 时间: 2016-1-20 23:23

常hold的住发表于 2016-1-17 09:04
Marcel Hirscher 2012雪季 SL 积分第3，2013雪季才开始接管 SL，此后始终总积分第一。 2013雪季末，Marce ...

太赞了!

作者: westvest 时间: 2016-1-20 23:24

westvest 发表于 2016-1-20 23:23
太赞了!

前面的视频已经不能看了，说因为版权的问题，YouTube帐号已经被关了。

作者: 常hold的住 时间: 2016-1-24 09:44
本帖最后由常hold的住于 2016-1-24 09:49 编辑

Henrik Kristoffersen 在Marcel Hirscher 家门口 Kitzbuehel (AUT) SL险胜后者0.03秒， SL总比分5：1

[youtube]watch?v=TBi2_IDN_X4[/youtube]

作者: 常hold的住 时间: 2016-1-26 17:32
Schladming (AUT)
Men’s Slalom
Henrik Kristoffersen 再胜Marcel Hirscher 0.61S， SL总比分6：1. 基本确定 Henrik Kristoffersen登基新一代 Slalom 天王
Marcel Hirscher 家门口，父母观战下，第一轮太差，排名20多，落后HK 1.49s。第二轮正常发挥在硬雪的超强能力，反超到第二。

[youtube]watch?v=iTE5Lg7XRAE[/youtube]

作者: 常hold的住 时间: 2016-1-26 17:46
Schladming SL赛道属于又陡又硬的，Marcel Hirscher 本应该拿下的。
此站淘汰率极高，最终通过2轮的只剩25人.德国名将NEUREUTHER Felix第一轮领先1s多，但第二轮DNF.

Henrik Kristoffersen 前后2轮都差点失去平衡摔倒，超强的核心力量和平衡能力都帮他恢复过来。
（尼玛，附件上不了了，插）

[youtube]watch?v=noJjW2URSoE[/youtube]

作者: 常hold的住 时间: 2016-1-26 17:54
Henrik Kristoffersen 天才无疑，不到22岁已经拿到10站FIS 冠军（SL9+GS1）。要知道27岁的Marcel Hirscher SL+GS 总共36站冠军，已经被公认是10年出一位的天才。

本赛季SL基本被Henrik Kristoffersen 和Marcel Hirscher垄断前2名，其他选手只能争第3.

作者: 常hold的住 时间: 2016-1-27 17:50

cat 发表于 2016-1-11 21:30
啥时候比GS啊，我好想看Mr. GS Ted 嘢

猫大，
本赛季看不成了，Ligety Wrecked，torn ACL in GS training.
能期待下赛季还复出就不错了

http://www.skiracing.com/stories ... n-gs-training-crash

he gets over-rotated on a right foot turn at the end of the video....

作者: 常hold的住 时间: 2016-1-27 17:54
有意思的评论

He has a 2-3 ruptured/compressed discs in his back, and he has a problematic hip labrum {like might need more surgery}. He turns 32 this summer. This has been rough on the body.

I hope that we'll see him make a comeback, but he has a lot going on in his life, and I would not be shocked it this is the end of a career, and the start of a bunch of other ventures for him.

On a side note, I'm of the opinion that we won't see Hirscher racing when he's 30. We might see Kristofferson done before then....despite saying that he'd like to race into his mid-thirties as of late. Hirscher said a couple of years ago that he would retire at 30. Might be sooner. He turns 27 in a couple of months. He might be part of a long list of 2018 retirees.

It's a real grind. It's hard. The guys at the top make a lot of money, and are exposed to a lot of other business opportunities. This is a different world that when a Euro star retired to run his own small hillside inn. Ligety is bright guy, and he's already got a neat business with Shred. Hirscher, I'm told is smart and exceptionally personable.....and very interested in the business world. HK is still very young.

We'll see. These guys who have a lot of years on the tour, starting when they are very young show their wear and tear the they are Ligety's age,

作者: 常hold的住 时间: 2016-1-27 18:04
SCHLADMING SL 第一轮前四。
德国NEUREUTHER Felix 干的非常漂亮，鸭梨控制滴很好。

Henrik Kristoffersen 出场前 1:50s，镜头给到了她母亲（halide Kristoffersen ）和女友（malin Kristoffersen ）。
居然女友也叫 Kristoffersen ，不知道是因为挪威叫Kristoffersen多，还是已经随了男友姓？

[youtube]watch?v=PY57cWNTJZg[/youtube]

作者: KuoiGuaBoarder 时间: 2016-1-27 19:44
奇了怪了，为啥这帖的视频手机都不让看

作者: 常hold的住 时间: 2016-1-28 06:28
牛13的视频分析，同步2人的滑行

[youtube]watch?v=Yn7nUT1bS-c[/youtube]

作者: 常hold的住 时间: 2016-1-28 06:37
Kitzbühel Slalom 第一轮Marcel Hirscher 50.48s，领先HK 50.97s出发。最后MH输了0.03s。

作者: 常hold的住 时间: 2016-2-12 16:21
近2个月停赛，Giant Slalom今天中午在日本 Yuzawa Naeba 重燃战火
Bwin 给的夺冠投注如下：

Marcel Hirscher (AUT)1.65
Henrik Kristoffersen (NOR)5.00
Felix Neureuther (GER)9.00
Victor Muffat Jeandet (FRA)9.00
Alexis Pinturault (FRA)17.00
Thomas Fanara (FRA)21.00
Mathieu Faivre (FRA)26.00
Fritz Dopfer (GER)34.00
Roberto Nani (ITA)41.00

作者: 常hold的住 时间: 2016-2-13 01:21
[youtube]watch?v=7teTtxgRUEk[/youtube]

1 PINTURAULT Alexis             1:16.45 1:17.78 2:34.23            100
2 FAIVRE Mathieu             1:17.16 1:17.58 2:34.74 +0.51 80
3 BLARDONE Massimiliano       1:17.40 1:17.50 2:34.90 +0.67 60
4 KRISTOFFERSEN Henrik       1:17.39 1:17.61 2:35.00 +0.77 50
5 MUFFAT-JEANDET Victor       1:17.19 1:17.95 2:35.14 +0.91 45
6 HIRSCHER Marcel             1:16.66 1:18.88 2:35.54 +1.31 40

作者: 常hold的住 时间: 2016-2-13 01:26
总积分MH 依然领先 HK 124分
1 HIRSCHER  Marcel             AUT 1045
2 KRISTOFFERSEN  Henrik    NOR    921
3 SVINDAL  Aksel Lund       NOR    916
4 JANSRUD  Kjetil             NOR    735
5 FILL Peter                      ITA    549

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