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发表于 2014-4-19 09:43:27 | 显示全部楼层 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
本帖最后由 bullpower 于 2014-4-19 10:34 编辑

CSIA教材关于插杆的搜索结果:
1.
Steering for Control and Efficiency
Develop finesse in steering skills for control in different conditions.
Efficient steering means maintaining control over the speed
and direction without fatigue and wasted effort. Turning the legs
quickly and independently of the upper body provides control and
good balance on steep terrain. The skis will be on edge, but not
necessarily cutting a pure arc. Maintain balance over the middle
of the downhill ski by committing the upper body to the pole plant.

Tactics
• Reach down the hill for the pole plant.
• Hop turn, make sure the legs turn first.
• Sideslip in different parts of the turn.
• Hockey stops, edge sets.

2.
Advanced Bumps
Advanced bumps combine technical abilities and a tactical approach.
Some skiers need to consolidate their technique to become
more comfortable in the bumps. Others struggle because of
not knowing where to turn. Choosing the right line depends largely
on the shape of the bumps. Use the top of the bumps to change
direction. Redirecting the skis takes less effort if timed when only
the middle of the ski is in contact with the snow.
Develop a relaxed
and supple stance to absorb shocks. Maintaining snow contact is
important for control. Avoid the troughs, especially in marginal
conditions. The troughs are often icy and rocky, and impose a
challenging and fast line. Use a rounder turn shape to steer around
the troughs and stay on the good snow. Steering into the bumps
from “10 o’clock” and “2 o’clock” offers another option for line
and speed control.


Tactics
• Round turns in the bumps to develop pressure control.
Reaching over the bumps with the pole plant for stability.
• Edging on the back or shoulder of the bumps to avoid the
troughs.
• Hop initiation before reaching the bump to reduce impact.
• Hop with steering.
• Airplane turns.
• Retract the legs over the bump.

3.
Advanced Competency -
Loading and deflection

Creating rhythm by using rebound and deflection is part of the
thrill of skiing. As skis grip and bend, the forces increase. The
skis and boots can act as springs, combining with the skiers own
work effort. Resisting these forces stores potential energy (“loading”).
This energy can be used to change trajectory and to increase
deflection across the slope. Directing this reaction can generate
speed.

The lower body steers while the upper body stays
stable. This stores energy.

A pole plant blocks the momentum of the
upper body and lets the legs turn in a
new direction, releasing stored energy.


沙发
 楼主| 发表于 2014-4-19 10:13:34 | 显示全部楼层
这一段就完全否定了所谓纯CARVING的说法, EDGING 和PIVOTING永远是一起BLEND在一起使用的。
所有PARK &  RIDE的滑法,都是纸老虎。

Efficient steering means maintaining control over the speed
and direction without fatigue and wasted effort. Turning the legs
quickly and independently of the upper body provides control and
good balance on steep terrain. The skis will be on edge, but not
necessarily cutting a pure arc.
板凳
 楼主| 发表于 2014-4-19 10:21:26 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 bullpower 于 2014-4-19 10:28 编辑

advanced bumps
CSIA LVL3-4还是鼓励在包顶转,然后再包背搓下来。斜着上包,注意吸收,积极PIVOTING,然后EXTEND保持压力搓。
所以EXTEND+ANGULATION是LOAD加压, FLEX TO RELEASE是减压的。而我们很多人理解的都是反的。
很多人FLEX时才加压,所以我们滑的才不够DYNAMIC,全是FLEX,没EXTEND,ANGULATION也不够。

教材里明确里点明了在BUMP里也要ROUNDED TURN。所以MOGUL里不能冲坡。冲坡不是PERFORMANCE

你可以说这和竞技MOGUL的滑法不一样,但先问问你是学竞技MOGUL吗那块料吗?
你需要那么快的下MOGUL吗?你是在和其他竞技者拼下MOGUL的速度吗?
竞技MOGUL好像都是人工修的,比较整齐,但也比较高(深),可能滑法也不一样。
地板
 楼主| 发表于 2014-4-19 10:22:28 | 显示全部楼层
最后这段:
A pole plant blocks the momentum of the
upper body and lets the legs turn in a
new direction, releasing stored energy.

我觉得很清楚的说明了POLE PLANT和TURN的顺序问题
5#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-4-19 10:25:14 | 显示全部楼层
以上内容摘自CSIA LVL3-4 READING material.
建议要冲三的大侠好好地,完整地,细细地读一下。

俺以前发现书挺好的,只是咱们都没看。

书里讲了很多东西,回答了很多问题,也有很多图例,给你分解,比YOUTUBE好。
YOUTUBE多的是看整体滑行的感觉。

6#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-4-19 10:52:19 | 显示全部楼层
vicboy™ 发表于 2014-4-19 10:38
牛总你太牛啦。我一直都以为党的五大要求没有插杆。

老大,你被盗号了?所谓TIME and COORDINATION 好像就是扯的插杆这个SKILL
7#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-4-19 10:56:20 | 显示全部楼层
俺魔沟水平基本为0 啊,完全是纸上谈兵,大家尽管向我开炮。俺完全是为了发飙,赚积分,和学习的目的。

点评

砰,砰砰 :O(¯(●●)¯)  发表于 2014-4-19 19:54
8#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-4-19 10:59:35 | 显示全部楼层
魔沟不错, 初级的上魔毯,高级的就得进魔沟了
9#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-4-19 11:01:25 | 显示全部楼层

lupo  高级滑法里面基本都是用extend加压,不仅仅是蘑菇一项。flex加压只能在上下,不能增加edging和左右平衡。  发表于 22 分钟前

谢谢LUPO大侠的点评,这个帮我理解了很多东东,以前自己的一些猜测不敢说出来,说出来仿佛也和周围大家滑的不一样,所以不知道对错。

点评

相信你自己,嘿嘿,书里面写着呢.edging and pressure control 里面!  发表于 2014-4-19 11:20
10#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-4-19 11:33:10 | 显示全部楼层
cat 发表于 2014-4-19 11:28
艺术的东西,做不到的一定理解不了,理解不了的,便是白纸黑字地摆在面前,也还是看不到,所以只有已经明白 ...

偶不同意,做到做不到,做的对不对,那还得看书。
很多人能力到了,但做的不对,这时就需要看书了。

你说的是能力不到,那看书也是白看。

但比如说多伦多的大王,她能力绝对到了,但就是不明白该咋滑。你和她说了,她马上就做到。
这就是缺看书了,光攒麦乐鸡了。

麦乐鸡是王道,但只是必要条件,不是充分必要条件。

点评

大王是谁呀?  发表于 2014-4-19 12:12
cat
对牛弹琴,谁跟你说麦乐鸡了  发表于 2014-4-19 11:39
赞充要条件  发表于 2014-4-19 11:33
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